english MPs have their own devolution

22 Oct

london 10.40pm 12.9C thursday 2015

saw this in the online news. english MPs can now vote for only english laws. that is good. high time this happens.

it may have been forgotten , but it was scottish MPs and their vote that pushed through the education bill that applies to england and wales that brought in student fees. whilst for scotland their MPs have voted against it. 

i wonder whether it will apply to voting for a 3rd runway in heathrow. the scottish MPs have said they will vote for it if they are promised increased money under the money- for- scotland formula, which says any public spending in england can be applied to a % towards calculating how much money is given to scotland. so they are saying if that money spent on the runway is included in the formula, then they will vote for the runway, otherwise not.

in the past, scotland did get more flight slots (8 i think.. imagine 8 flights a day to scotland haha. ) in heathrow during the horse trading in allocating landing slots there. but it seems they are loss making (not surprising now we think of it haha)and the airlines that do it have given up their slots and now the slots are used for flights elsewhere, but not to asia and other areas denied a landing slot now;  which was what was promised if the 3rd runway is built. so beware of promises that they make to argue for a 3rd runway. they can change their minds after it is built, when the market forces changes and makes it unprofitable. i have been thinking this might be the ploy by the EU. promise to agree to everything that  cameron wants in his demands, and then after the referendum and we vote to stay in, rescind them or alter them or delay legislation to bring them in, or even veto it in a vote and say well too bad, the other nations have vetoed it. sorry lah.  hah. 

but now that english votes for english MPs only is on, than all the scottish MPs wont be allowed to vote on it. though the scots can argue that heathrow is so important to the whole nation, all the MPs should be able to vote on it. so they could still get in.

unless parliament says the money spent will not be included in the formula.  

maybe they might even vote to abolish the formula, though that would certainly make the scots vote to leave the union. though if u come to think of it, it is like a child voting to spite its face… because if they object to getting no more money from england , leaving the union will definitely make that happen. haha.

frankly, if they have another referendum about whether the scots should get independence or not, they should let the rest of the uk vote on it too… and i for one will vote them out. haha. if nothing else so we dont hear any more of them whingeing about it. haha. 

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2 Responses to “english MPs have their own devolution”

  1. akirwin Friday October 23, 2015 at 2:19 am #

    so much for making a stronger united kingdom

    • alifesgayventure Friday October 23, 2015 at 8:37 am #

      some think devolution is a mistake, but i think it is inevitable. the uk is simply doing a model of govt that the rest of the world will have to follow, like our privatisation programmes. the whole world copied that in the end. Europe may well be advised to follow the same route allowing each country some measure of home rule, rather than insist on one size fits all.
      but this would mean devolution must also apply to england too. it means parliament itself should be reduced in size as well as scope and deal with only national and international matters. local matters can be left to each parliament in scotland, england and wales. with northern ireland having its own arrangement. and each city can have its own rule too. so london can have a similar arrangement. i wonder if it will work in practise. after all it is very similar to olden days of kings , and overlords…but with democratic representation. and it brings in another layer of bureaucracy and costs. each having its own parliament and housing for it will be costly. but it will lead to power plays like the snp is doing … removing support in the national parliament if it does not get more money for its own area.
      but argueing the other way, devolution may be a mistake that will split the nation. when scotland can have its own laws and have free education, free prescriptions, even some free drugs available that is not available in england… that seems to be a recipe ripe for resentment. not all citizens are equally treated . i really do not know whether it is good or bad.

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