i did not realise that turkey is in NATO

4 Apr

london 2.14pm 15.1C cloudy monday 2016

i know the donald recently said america is paying too much for the upkeep of NATO, it seems only britain, poland and america are paying the required 1/50 (or 2% of GDP) of national income. $340,000 a year usa contribution. uk $60,000 a year. germany and france should be paying the same amount but they dont.(not a lot when u consider it). the costs comes when there is a war on and u have to spend on planes,ships,ammunition,men…)

added.13.4.16 i think the figures are wrong. it cannot be so low. i recently found out that  uk gives £11.4billion as 0.7% of gross national income to foreign aid. if that is so, than 2% of gni must be more than £24billion . that seems very high. but this quote

“Germany would have to increase its military budget from roughly €37 billion ($42 billion) to over €74 billion ($84 billion) to meet the target,” Anthony writes. in this article

suggests that figure is correct, the uk may well be spending £27billion. it seems to me we are confusing what is military spending for the whole country as opposed to military spending for NATO alone. maybe the two are so closely connected they dont distinguish the two.  all very confusing. 

people criticised him for it, but it does seem rather extraordinary for america to pay so much for defending other people’s territory.

why isn’t germany and france paying their share, or for that matter all the other countries that are in NATO? if poland can pay its share, it seems scandalous that france and germany are not doing so.

in the article in capX , 42% of americans agree with the donald. you certainly cannot blame them , after all, why should europe expect americans to pay for their defense??? people keep saying theEU has made europe war free… but it is clear that NATO is the one that makes it war free, with its promise that aggression against one member means the rest will join in to defend it. who are the members of NATO?

The Nato countries are: Albania, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Netherland, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom,United States.

it seems to me the donald is making a lot of sense, at least if i were an american. all the other countries seem to be in the EU and are getting a free ride from NATO. come to think of it, canada is in there too. if i were canadian i would ask the same question of the canadian govt… why are we paying to defend these people who dont seem to be interested in paying for their own defense? and for a british voter, i would ask why is britain paying its full share, and the others not? i suppose if germany and france pays in their full share, or if all the countries pay 2% of GDP, there will be too much money given in which case maybe they can proportionately reduce the payment all round. the other question to ask is, if there is a war, american and britain will be contributing a lot more, in terms of aircraft, ships, men ammunition etc etc… added. i think it is military spending that the donald is talking about, and a lot of that spending by the usa is not directly related to NATO, though it is lumped in. thus usa spending in the war on iraq is included in that spending to NATO, even though france and germany are against it and so have not contributed to it. thus u have the donalds figures that usa is paying so much for NATO. 

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3 Responses to “i did not realise that turkey is in NATO”

  1. Garfield Hug Monday April 4, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    Donald is a biz man. He does seem to be a probable candidate for Presidency. Though he is a startler, he seems to invoke the interests of Americans to vote for him…maybe Americans want “action” to protect selves.

    • alifesgayventure Monday April 4, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

      i could not help comparing the american problems with their mexican migrants as similar to europe’s problems with its african migrants. with europe in the EU, so that it becomes like a united state of europe, it has the same attractions as the usa to migrants, and so its problems with migrants are like that of the usa.
      europe is building fences , and seems to be quite successful and the donald has suggested doing the same with mexico.
      and i read that people smuggling into usa has been going on for ages so much so that ecuador has become the centre of the smuggling trade in the americas. the difference in europe is that there is the added factor of dangerous isis terrorists sneaking in with the migrants.

      • Garfield Hug Monday April 4, 2016 at 3:51 pm #

        In his strange outspoken way…Donald may sound radical but I guess the Americans want change 😉

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